Australia news March 11, 2017

'Ball will still go the same distance' - Warner

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David Warner on the proposal to restrict bat sizes

David Warner, who is likely to be among the batsmen impacted if the MCC's proposal to limit bat sizes is passed into law, has said playing with a slimmer piece of willow would not to make too much of a difference to his game.

"We're just going to have to adapt to the changes," Warner said on Saturday. "And, you know what, the ball's still going to go the same distance, the ball will still go to the fence, and we're still going to get our ones and twos, and the odd nick might not carry this time."

Warner's T20 bat reportedly measures 85mm at its thickest part. Under the proposed rule, bats will be limited to a thickness of 67mm at the spine and 40mm at the edge.

Warner reckoned that these limits would force a number of batsmen to trim down their bats. He said he had been to his bat-maker to have his bats checked by a gauge, and that even the bats from the start of his career did not go through it. He still reckoned he would cope with a slimmer bat, referencing the double-sided model he had used a few years ago in domestic T20 cricket.

"I was down there previously, about six months ago, and I had a look, and we put a whole various range of bats, from when I started and a few other guys started, and I'm not sure if they were the correct measurements , but they weren't going through the measurement thing they were doing," he said. "But at the end of the day they've got to govern that as well.

"For us, we've just got to use whatever the bat-maker brings us, but remember, I used a double-sized bat which wasn't even 30 mils or 40 mils. I used that quite well as well."

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  •   Sanjay Kulkarni on March 14, 2017, 8:01 GMT

    it is getting better. the technology is eliminating lot of mistakes( they have to get rid of that umpire decision). no need for umpires in modern day. just deal everything with can make a better decision of everything from no ball to lb. on field guy should be only a facilitator. they should also increase the height of the stumps. I always found them 3 to 4 inch short. A ball bouncing above stump on indian pitches is a big no no! the idea of limiting bat thickness is edges not going beyond the boundary. a mishit must most of the times must stay within the field of play.

  • craigc7171716 on March 14, 2017, 7:54 GMT

    Good move from the ICC. The new bats have a very short lifespan. the biggest issue is at club level where players can't afford to buy 2+ cricket bats per season. Bat makers will have to revert back to old school techniques and press their bats, the big bats will phase out quickly due to their fragile nature and cricket will become more affordable to grass roots levels of the game.

  • Sanjay on March 13, 2017, 18:40 GMT

    @Saj_Rana: It's out there somewhere, I don't know the dimensions off the top of my head. There's a great pic of Barry Richards holding his bat in one hand, and Warner's in the other. I'm sure I saw it on this website the other day. I believe the bat Richards is holding is the one with which he hit a triple ton for SA (that's South Australia) vs WA. Richards' bat looks like a toothpick in comparison.

    Warner to his credit isn't making any excuses. He will adapt.

    There's no doubt in my mind that the better bats have helped batsmen, the ball just travels so much further and importantly faster. Psychologically, it gives immense confidence to the batsman as opposed to the mistimed shots of the past. Lower order batsmen have been the biggest beneficiaries combined with the protective equipment they wear.

    But the best attribute of the modern bats, like Warner's, is the pick-up. It feels like a bat with far less wood. Back in the day, a bigger bat was heavier.

  • Jose on March 13, 2017, 4:45 GMT


    Lest I may be misunderstood, reading my comment on the importance of "timing' of the strokes, I should say, with all the voice I can command, that the bat size HAS to come within proper guidelines, On all dimensions, not just on the 'picked & chosen ones', as of now.

    When we go to see a batsman playing, we are NOT going to watch a Popeye, the sailor-man, picking a huge tree-trunk, hitting the ball & the leather, out of your sight, with that massive forearm, bulked up & strengthened with many cans of spinach lovingly fed by his mate, Olive Oyl! Certainly not!

    When everything else is hemmed in, by the omnipotent ICC (mostly in favour of the batsmen), this move is very very overdue!

  • Sajid on March 13, 2017, 4:32 GMT

    It would be interesting to know the current measures of bat of Warner. If someone can come up with these?

  • laksvi5642713 on March 13, 2017, 3:49 GMT

    @ RAM_INDIAN ON MARCH 12, 2017, 14:42 GMT-well said, good to have a rational voice in midst of the one upmanship tsunami so common on these blogs...yeah, dissing of players is so common - they surely get more respect from our keyboard warriors.... going back to the article - good that bat size standarzization is going to come in, at least this will get rid of a few hit and miss sloggers and boil it down to real skill..... as a further, hope they go for pitch standardization as well - especially in my country india - wish we could prepare better evenly bouncing wickets something in it for all types of bowlers as well as for the batsmen, instead of the same spinning low bouncy wickets day in and out.....cricinfo plz publish

  • Jose on March 13, 2017, 3:06 GMT


    Unless it is WWF Cricket, where the rope is trying to come in closer & closer to hug you in her embrace, and bless you with a 4 or 6, even for mishits!

    @Those who are helping young batsmen at various levels in their neighborhood, pl emhpasise, what is the major key for success; THE TIMIMG.

    For that, pl help them to understand the importance of judging the LINE, LENGTH, BOUNCE & TURN of the balls coming out of the bowlers hands and/or of the pitch. And, mastery of those will assist their natural skills in batting, FAR MORE than the size of the bat! That is, if they have any ambition to be a TEST CRICKETER one day. That is the least you can do for budding badmen.

  • Sanjay on March 12, 2017, 22:13 GMT

    It's not often I mind myself agreeing with @AussieNSW. Don't let it go to your head tho, Blue Cap,

    As well as the thickness of the edges which translates to more wood, the larger sweet spot has transformed batting for the less talented. How many times have we seen toe-enders clear the ropes? Please don't tell me that was skill. Back in the day - and I'm showing my age here - if the ball hit the toe of your bat, your hands, wrists and even elbows would ring with a nasty, jarring vibration. The ball would barely comes off the wicket.

    What the lawmakers cannot control is the superior batmaking techniques. The days of applying linseed oil, looking out for thin grains (Hutton & Boycott's preference) are long gone. Highly compressed wood, extremely dry, the ball pings off modern bats far better than those of past.

    Meanwhile, the ball has stayed the same. BTW, in the 70s, those SS Jumbos were bigger than others but you had to have strong forearms to use them.

  • Xiong on March 12, 2017, 18:13 GMT

    I particularly like this law change because when the ball pings off the bat just like it used to everybody who has misunderstood what they've been seeing and overestimating the effect of a larger bat will understand. The weight is far more crucial in terms of distance hit and that's limited naturally by a comfortable lifting weight and I'm very suspicious modern day players nick a lot of balls that would have been missed in the good old days with a bat 1/4 the thickness. Of course the balance won't be quite as good, and the sweet spot slightly smaller, but at 67 mm I'm 100% confident the bat manufacturers will have this all figured out and functioning just like it used to within a year.

  • carmel2779900 on March 12, 2017, 16:09 GMT

    Without big bats, warner's scores would make courtney walsh proud of his own batting.

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